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Daniel Madrid is a Truck driver here in Portland Oregon who has worked his way up from a broke kid in trouble with the law to making $80k+ a year as one of Portland’s top truck drivers. He has opened his own side business detailing cars and is aiming to make over $100k this year. He shares his story with us and how he made it up and out of where he started

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We doing this? Let’s do it. Let’s do this. All right. We have got a guest today. Daniel Madrid is with us and Daniel is a, I say that right? Yep. And Daniel is a, um, a listener and he sent us an email. I know Daniel A. Little bit. In fact, I just met Daniel a couple of weeks ago. Uh, and he’ll explain why I met him in what he’s doing. Uh, but he had lists, been listener, listener to the podcast and uh, he’s got an interesting story to tell. So this podcast is all about interesting stories and people who, uh, who have, who have made it or are trying to make it, we’re trying to do themselves better, particularly if they come from a difficult background.

You don’t have to have a difficult background, I think, hopefully to get something from our podcasts. The point is that regardless of where you come from, success can be attained no matter what. And I know people who struggle, who had it easy. And I know people who struggle, who have had it hard. The point is, uh, from my perspective anyway, that anyone can do it. And the fact that some of us have had it harder than others and trying to get there hopefully is a little bit more push or inspiration or a little bit of charge added to people’s batteries to get out there and try it. So with that said, Daniel, welcome to the Jerry Brazy podcast. Thank you for having me. Appreciate it. Yeah, perfect. Look at you right in that mic. That’s perfect. We can hear you loud and clear. So Daniel and I don’t know that, eat each other that well. We started right before we did the podcast to talk about that and kind of fill me in on the blanks and then we thought, ah, as long as there’s nothing off limits, uh, that he wasn’t uncomfortable talking to him or that he was uncomfortable talking about, uh, we will get to know each other during the podcast. So, uh, without further ado, Daniel, tell us about yourself.

Well. Uh, I am a driver. I drive truck. I’ve been driving truck for almost 15 years now. I’ve been in transportation for about 18 years total. Okay. Uh, I used to work down the road over off 180 first. How’d you get into truck driving? There’s a long story. Give me the short one. Well, uh, so I had a kid, I got married, had a kid, and I was, I was terrified that I wouldn’t be able to feed her born and raised here in Portland. I was born in Glendale, raised in Burbank, California. Moved up here in [inaudible] 91. Okay. So how old, how old are you now? 35. And how old were you? Let’s see. I met her right and she was 16,

if I remember. Yeah. That’s, so you were 19 years old and you had a baby. Yep. Yeah, that’s turning 19. Just turning 19. How old his Mama?

Uh, she’s four years older than I.

Okay. So she was 22, 23. Yup. All right. So right off the bat you’re breaking the golden rule. Uh, if you’ve listened to this podcast and many other podcasts that people talk about, the three ways to escape kind of that background is that you graduate from high school, you, uh, don’t get married until you’re 28 years old and you don’t have kids before you get married. If I could do it again, I would, I would do it that way. Yeah. Right. So again, not too, I’m not judging you, I’m just saying that that’s a right off the bat, you’re perfect for this podcast because this podcast is all about people who have a broken those rules. All right, so now you’re 19 years old, just turned 19. Scared Shitless, I’m guessing. Uh, cause you’ve got a kid. What’s your background? Let’s back up even further than before. Truck driving. What’s your background? Grew up in Glendale, you said?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then, um, moved here in 91. Uh, me and uh, my brother and my two sisters. So four of us total, a single mom. So Dad was never in the picture. A mom worked. Did you ever meet your dad? About five times. Okay. Yeah, he actually just died. So,

so when you were a kid, you never had any

no father at all? No. No father and my brother was older than me, so I didn’t even have a father figure and he, my brother was out of the house, um, with the exception of, I was in the big brother big sister program. Okay. And my big brother, awesome guy, taught me a lot because I liked the guy. I’ll go. Were you when you hooked up with him? I think I was 10 or 11. Yeah. Alright. So young enough to be influenced. Right? Absolutely. Good for you. Yep. Um, yeah,

I mean, I show you guys move up here. You’re, you’re, how old when you move here? 91. So you’re

eight? Yeah. Eight or 10. Yeah. Let’s say, um, mom moved up here for work while we moved up to get away from all the little shit that was happening. Guy In California. I mean, it was bad. It was gangs, it was violence. Um, and to get away from, I assumed my dad, uh, so we moved up here. Um, and then we got into like a, uh, like a shelter of some sort. Right. Um, are you familiar with, uh, kings row on the Golf Lynn? Yeah, of course. Okay.

So the, the outdoor motel that they rent by the hour, they rent by the hour? Yes.

So when we first came here, my mom went to that hotel to see if we can stay there and they’re like, oh, you don’t want to stay here. We rent by the hour.

Yeah. Yeah. The, the, that is the, uh, the downtrodden part of town. So they say it’s a little bit different these days, but uh, yeah, back in the day.

So, you know, uh, grew up in basically oak grove. Um,

so you grew up in Portland essentially for people who are listening that don’t know the area and grew up, uh, your mom, what does she moved here to get away from something? So did she have something when she got here? She work what?

She didn’t have anything. She didn’t know college education or anything. Um, she had two or three jobs, um, grew up in Gorham government housing. Right. Uh, you know, it, it sucked. Yup. Being a poor kid. Yup. Which I’m sure you know, cause I mean, you told your story about it. Yup. Um, and

I would say about being a poor kid, uh, that I had no idea. People, I get the question all of the time. Uh, it’s amazing to me how much it comes up where people go, you know, that had to suck for you as a kid. I mean, they’re empathetic to the fact that I grew up the way that I grew up and I say no, I, there’s no reason I didn’t know I was poor. Right. I didn’t know I was poor until I was old enough to be aware that I was poor, which isn’t really tell you start to compare yourself with your peers. So about the time, what’s at 12, 13 years old, maybe 11, 12, 13, somewhere in there. I didn’t ever think about it, um, before that. So for me it was just, you know, stealing food from the store was what you did on your way home from school.

Right, right. I think I was 12 and when I figured out that we were living in government housing, um, because my neighbor asked, so how much do you guys pay for rent? I’m like, oh, I don’t know. He’s like, cause you know that the government housing, right? I’m like, really? Like what does that mean? And then he told me everything. I’m like, Oh fuck. Okay, sorry. Got It. Now I feel like a low life. I’m like, okay, so I gotta do something about this. So I was, I think I was 11 or 12 when, uh, when he asked me that. So immediately then I started mowing lawns.

So you went out at 12 years old, where did you, he says you’re living in government housing. Where’s the, where is the wherewithal, uh, for you to say to yourself, I need to go hit it. I got to go earn some money because I want to

be like everybody else. Okay. You know, I don’t want to be that person who stands out because I’m poor. Right? Want to do something about it. So go mow lawns. That’s, you know, the only thing I could think of, we charge 20 bucks a lawn and we’d go on malaria buddies’ lawn. And I remember I had 140 bucks in my pocket and I felt like Alison millionaire,

mom didn’t, uh, push you to do this. No one else pushed you to do this. You were just like, I don’t want to be like everybody else. I want to make some extra money. Right. So almost somewhere that was born into you.

Right? I guess. Well, see my mom working two jobs, sure. Have it or never be there. Um, that’s, that showed me the work dedication that she had when I knew that I, you know, hey, I need to do this too.

Yeah. Mowing lawns is an interesting one. One of the, one of the, uh, most steadfast business rules that I live by, a was taught to me by my lawnmowing Gig. I was probably eight or 10 years old and the neighbor lady way, way down across this field and way down from where I lived that my mother knew and her daughter Babysat us. That’s another story. She babysat us one time, my little brother and I locked her in a closet, uh, and tied her up literally all day in the closet to the end of the times. I, her name was, her last name was a Ford. I’m terrible. It’s so bad. Yeah. Uh, she didn’t come back after that. Um, but so Mrs. Ford had us co or, or, uh, I offered to mow her lawn and she said how much? And I told her how much I had never been to her house, so I said, I’ll go mow the lawn.

I don’t remember how much it was, but I’m gonna say, I probably said, I’ll mow your lawn for five bucks. And I got there and the lawn was eight, 10 inches deep. It was thick as shit. It was, you know, quarter of an acre. It was gigantic. And I remember literally, and she, I don’t know if she did this on purpose. I don’t know if she was just this way. She, I remember saying to her five bucks, I don’t even think it was five bucks. Right. This had been circus 78. You know, it, it might’ve been a dollar or $2. And I remember saying to her, man, whatever, that two bucks I quoted you and that’s it. Well, she said, that’s the price you gave me. Here’s you two bucks. I mean, it must’ve taken me two hours as sweated my ass off as 500 degrees back and forth.

God Damn lawnmower. You know how when you have to do a real fast, dropped it back, pull it back.

I remember Jay first I had to push the motherfucking lawn mower, which was on her house, was half a mile away. Uh, I remember to this day, maybe I’m 10, I remember to this day, uh, the lesson I learned there, I use that everyday all the time. Yeah. Don’t pry shit unless you know what you’re getting and

paid. Absolutely. I don’t know what you got to know what you’re getting yourself into. Otherwise you’re hosed. I detail on the side from what I do and as you know, cause I, I did some work for you, right? Um, my role is no, you don’t do quotes over the phone. Yeah. You got to see, oh, it’s not that bad. You get there and fuck, you’re working on it for five, six hours. We only charge them, you know, a hundred a hundred bucks. That’s me mowing the lawn when I was 10 years old. All right, so you’re 12 years old, you’re going to go mow lawns where you went and mowed lawns. You’ve got 140 fucking dollars in your pocket. Boom. Yeah man. Yeah. I feel like I was felt like a fat cat. I didn’t even know. Yeah, that’s a, that’s impressive. So now what’s a 12 year old poor kid living out on the road to a with 140 bucks in his pocket. I just blew it on shit. Don’t do chips. Yeah, hold it. All that good stuff. Yeah. All the stuff that we couldn’t buy. You know, cause we would go once a month to Winco and span. I think we would spend $400 and because we had, you know, government assistance, so once a month we’ll go grocery shopping and we never got all the good stuff. So the hundred 40 bucks went to chips and cookies and

yeah, and stuff like that. A 12 year old kid would buy if you buy whatever you wanted. I’ve told this story before when I was a kid, uh, I, my the kids, some of the kids I went to school with had dads who had money and they would come to school with a hostess fruit pies. And I remember the blackberry to this day I’ll eat a hostess fruit. I don’t eat that way anymore. But man, I love those hostess fruit pies. And so I remember laying in bed on the bunk, I shared an Ms. Little room I had with my brother and laying on that top bunk can just dream. And when I get big, we had a garage, you’d go down the stairs into this garage and I would dream that I would open the garage door and it would just be cases of, of, of hostess blackberry fruit pies. Cause that’s what you dream about when you’re 10 years old and you think if you, you know, if you had money, if only I would when I get money, when I get old, this was all I’m going to eat as hostess fruit pies. Yeah. So I know exactly what you’re thinking.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and, and back to when I was saying my mom worked two jobs, so when she worked out much, he loves me and my sister at home by ourselves, she was always at work. So during the summer, Leah just Dick Around and get in trouble, you know, find something to it’s find something to do. I remember, uh, when I was 16, uh, me and my buddy Eugene, he lived across the street from me. We were best buds. We, we would get in trouble all the time, you know, uh, street racing, stuff like that. Uh, I remember the neighbor came and banged on the door until this, if you don’t stop, you’re not going to call the cops and eat well, my next door neighbor was a cop. He’s sheriff, so I won’t go too off yourself. Go tell him I was a punk. He’s right there.

Yeah. Um, and I just, you know, I just gotten a lot of trouble. Um, I remember one year we went and bought a whole bunch of Piccolo. Pete’s, you know those fireworks. Well, I was also smoking a lot of pot too, so I mean I wasn’t always there all the time. Um, and I came up with this idea, I’m like, Hey, let’s make a Piccolo Pete bomb. You know, let’s just smash it up. Boom. Well my friend had the wise idea to throw one into a Porta potty, blew it to pieces of that can ration. Yeah. Well magic getting in trouble for that. Nope. I mean it’s a big deal, but it’s not that big of a deal considering he did it on school property. Ah, so, and this is before measure 11. Um, after measure 11. I mean, I would have been locked in, locked up, still

measure 11 for everybody listening is the minimum a sentencing guidelines that you get for that? We passed, I don’t know, probably 10, 15 years ago now.

Yeah, it’s, it’s basically any, any big crime that happens on school property or, or any to with children and stuff. Um, luckily it was, it was during the summer. It was, you know, during 4th of July. So, um, and you got caught doing it got caught. Ah, yeah. See I was, I was just there. I didn’t actually do it right. But I was there at says, yeah, guilty [inaudible] deal I was doing it wasn’t seen there be a bomb blowing up at a school. So we haul ass to my friend’s house and he’s like, oh, you can’t see here. So I’m like, oh, okay. So we’ll go back to my house.

So you’re running from the people who saw you do it or what are you,

I didn’t think anybody saw us, but I’m like, we just need to get the hell out of here because you know, boom, boom. Yeah, during the day. So we took off, we wanted to go back to my house and we’re looking at looking out the window and he lived across the street from me at his house. Two cop cars show up. Fuck what’s going on here. If they know, they know. So we had this, this, this plan. What we did was we made peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and then he stored his lawn mower in my garage. We opened the garage, grabbed our lawn mowers, started walking down the street, eating our sandwiches, make it like

trying to look like your worker. We just saw them on mobile is a good plan.

Yeah, they weren’t, they didn’t buy it. No. Fuck up. You get in front of us. Cop took me to the ground. I deserved it, you know. But I mean, I, although I didn’t do it, I was still in the company of somebody who did that. So I mean, I’m not saying I am not at wrong here. So got arrested. Um, I was, I think I was 15 or 16 in Juvie for 27 days. That was crazy. Got To tour the Oregon State penitentiary. Which Julie McDonald. He Long.

Oh yeah. JDH right over there on, I may have been in there once or twice. Right there. There. Okay. I know it well.

Before that I had never been to Portland proper. Portland. Okay. And when I, when they released me or whatever, mom’s like, no, I’m not picking up. I’m like, fuck. Okay. So they gave me a bus ticket. Well, I had never written public transportation. I just stayed in my own little bubble. So I had to figure out how to get from that jail back to home, you know, which is what, 20 miles away. That was a freaky shit ever. I mean, it was weird. Anyways, um, so yeah, they put me on probation back

to the, let me, let me interrupt you a minute. Back to the bus and taking the bus. Um, I always talk about it again, as you tell the story, I try to relate it. At least I do this in my head. And so I’ll say what I’m thinking. I try to relate this stuff back to real world. And how does anybody listening to this benefit from hearing about you having to take the bus and not knowing how to do it, how insurmountable. As a 15 year old, just getting out of a juvenile detention for 27 days, mom says, fuck it. You’re on your own and you’re sitting there in a place you’ve never been in a part of town you’ve never seen, and you’re on your getting home, which had had, had, had been a two bus transfer, I’m guessing, to get out to where you’re talking about living from where I, or from where you were, um, at the point, at that point, that seemed insurmountable.

Now by today’s standards and the life that you have today, how dumb is that? Oh yeah. So your new normal, after you climbed off that bus at your house had moved exponentially. Your ability and your independence and your, the way that you viewed yourself where I changed exponentially from taking a bus. Yeah, that’s a big deal. That’s a big learning lesson. So it’s, at the time it seemed daunting, but then once you got it down and you’re like, I’ll bet you walked away. I don’t remember if you remember it specifically, but I would, I would bet that you came away from that feeling even more independent and like you could do even more. And that began a, that process of you, uh, moving out of that little bubble you’re living in, in, you know, southeast Milwaukee.

Yeah. That freaked me out. I never wanted to go through that again, ever. Um, yeah, no, absolutely. So they put me on probation and you know, the thing was I had to stay away from my friend Eugene who was my best friend and I, you know, if when you’re growing up you’ve got your best friend and I mean, you guys are, you know, you guys are attached. So I had to stay away from, well, started hanging out with this other kid named Jake. Now this Jake, he was an asshole. Like he’s everybody that, you know, everybody, everybody’s parents warned you about, hey, stay away from this kid. He’s no good. What drew you to Jake? He had a cool car.

Okay. And I’m 16 years old or so.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a cool car. I’m like, Oh, this guy’s Rad. I’m going to hang out with him. It’s a cool car. It was yellow. Yeah, it was in 90 95 Honda civic ex. Yeah. That was right away from this. I was like, all right, cool. So hung out with him. Um, and then I got my first job at Burgerville. I worked there for three days. On the third day I was riding with Jake. Jake picked me up to take me into work. We got pulled over because he was driving like an asshole. I called and I said, Hey, I’m so sorry I’m running late. I’ll be there as soon as I can. They said, don’t bother showing up. It was at that point where I’m like, okay, I need to change what’s going on here. I need to change who I’m hanging out with, what I’ve been doing because this isn’t working. I just got fired from my first job. So three days in, three days in. Yeah. I even get to learn how to make the secret sauce. Right.

God dammit. Be Nice to know that. So stop. Hamburgers are good from the ice man. Super Popular Burger place in this area. Yeah. Burger votes only in Oregon and Washington. I think everybody around the country doesn’t know what it is. There’s some power in and out their claim to fame. Yeah, that’s true. It’s our in and out. Their claim to fame is that stay got some sort of sauce. I don’t know what the fuck it is. Some sort of mixture of sunk that some sort of my style committee that goes into it. I think some wages are brought in to help put that shit on there. But man, those are good. Yeah, it’s good shit. Yeah. So,

so ever since then, so you know, I said, okay, I need to change the way I’m doing things. So

dude, I haven’t had lunch today and I’m fuck the sorry to interrupt you man. Those goddamn hamburgers are all greasy and find out, you know the kind of fucked up. They don’t look right. The normal hamburger, you know the regular ones, they don’t look like Mcdonald’s. They’re all kind of greasy and motherfucker. Those are good. All right. Sorry, go ahead. I’m just starving and you brought up Burgerville. I love Burgerville. Can we get a snack as secrets? We run somebody out and eat while we talk.

So it was at that point I’m like, all right, I got to change the way I’m doing things. So I left there. Um, of course I left hanging out with Jake and I’m like, okay, I can’t do that anymore. So start it. So I actually, that’s about the time I met my wife now.

So is this a, is this a, um, an epiphany that you had or do you remember thinking this specifically? Or was it just over time after getting pulled over and getting fired? How did this hit you?

You know, it, it just made, it just made me realize, hey, what you’re doing isn’t right because things aren’t going well for you. You don’t have anything. He just got fired from her first job. Why? Well, cause you’re hanging out with Jake and Jake’s, you know, an idiot and got pulled over and got you fired. I can’t blame Jake. I can only blame myself. Right, right. So it was about that time that I met my wife and my wife was my neighbors sister. So I was like, Hey, what’s up? You know, and you know, we’ve been together. It’ll be 20 years in. Well, it’d be it’s 18 years now. Wow. We’re about to celebrate our 20th. Uh, but I had off to her, she put me, she, she put me on the straight line. She said, all right, I’m tired of paying for Shit. You need to get a job.

So I’m like, okay, like where am I going to go? And she’s like, Oh, you need to figure it out. So I got a job at rite aid, you know, working, uh, it’s a drugstore for those of you that don’t know, uh, working graveyard because that’s the only thing they had available. Stocking shelves is sucked. It wasn’t fun at all. Sucks ass. Yeah, I was, I was adding up all my work history. I’ve had 20 jobs in the last, I don’t know, since I was 16. So it’s what, 18 years. And my wife has put up with me through all of it.

And in your current job though, you’ve had for a while,

four months.

Oh no, not a while. Oh, Shit. All right. Well keep going. Yeah. And it’s the best one yet. So you’re 19. You’re how old at this point? I was, she was like, I’ll get a job.

Yeah, I was 17. Okay. Yeah. Going to school? Nope. Okay. I even graduated school. You what? I dropped out high school. Yeah, high school. I had a 16. Okay. Man. I was hanging out. Like I said, I was hanging out with the wrong crowd, you know everything, right? Yeah, I think I do. You got it all down. Right. And you know, like I said, I was working nights, uh, and then we find out that we’re pregnant. I’ll fuck what am I going to do? Right. You know, now I have my mentality completely changed cause then I, okay, well I’m not just working just for to put gas in the car. I’m working because now I’m going to have another mouth to feed. So then I, let’s see, after I left there, I started doing an apartment maintenance and that’s when my first kid was born.

Um, let’s see here. Show the kids, the kid being born. Was it before or after the kid being born that you were feeling this pressure to go, uh, earn and get out and get a job? It was before and then tenfold after we felt better. Yeah. That’s kind of going with that. Yeah. Yeah. It’s just so much pressure on me. Like, okay, you know, I can’t fail. I, I can fail anything else but this, you know. So after that, then I started selling cars cause I’m like, oh, okay. These salesman, they make bank and I love cars so I can do this easily. Well when the Nissan three 50 [inaudible] first came out, I loved that car I sold the one did, I sold the most out of, oh well [inaudible] knows those v six 3.56, right? Vq 35, eight liter turbo. No. Oh No. No wonder I didn’t like, oh that’s the skyline.

You can sneak in a Godzilla. Uh, so then anyways, I sold the most three fifties he’s at Oregon, Washington, Idaho and northern California. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I loved that car and I could sell it no problem. And then sales die. I’m like, fuck, okay, when are we going to do now? So I’m like, okay, I’m going to go sell high end cars. So I went to Tonkin Chevy, so okay, I’ll sell some Corvettes. Granturismo so right across the street I can sell some high end cars. I sold one corvette and then I sold about four trucks. Didn’t make Dick on the day that my wife and I got married. I got a paycheck for negative like $40 I owed him money. That’s how sales works, you know. So I’m like fuck, okay, got to figure it out. So I mean, I got a couple of jobs in between there, but, and then I went to work at the lumber mill I had, I had seen an ad and saw that it was paying, I think it was 18 bucks an hour.

I fucked. That’s good money, I can do that. So I go and I work at the lumber mill and I was there for I think like a year and I was running a machine, it’s called a barker or a, it was an edger. So it just takes the edge is off of the boards and then it can be cut and sorted and everything. I was working on a machine because a piece of wood had gotten stuck there, had my locks and tags on it. Well, the mill right didn’t, he had a master key to my locks. He took the locks off and turn the machine on. Right as I’m grabbing the piece of wood out and I almost lost my arm. Eight up your arm? Yeah, I went all the way down to the bone. I mean it, it tore me up. I was in the machine for about a minute.

So I mean, I drove myself to the hospital because, you know, I didn’t want to leave my car there. I had this Nice Honda prelude, you know, and I’m like, fuck, I’m not, I’m not leaving this and Malala, it’s, it’s, it’s gone. So drove my son called the wife, say, Hey, I got cut. I’m on my way to the hospital. I’ll be home before you wake up. Well, I wasn’t home. And she freaked out, came to the hospital, saw me, and it was, it was all bad. So then I know what’s bad. Well, I mean it went all the way down to the bone. I want say skin graphs and shit or how do they, nothing. Nope. Leave those stitches. They just left it. So my arm just for one day, just for one day. Yeah. So when that, so that happened on a Friday. I was back to work on Monday.

All right. On, I couldn’t leave. I couldn’t leave my job. I can’t, I can’t not make money. You know, and people ask me, people ask me to this, say, well how can we knit Susan? Well, I didn’t want to say, okay, yeah, I’m going to sue these guys. I can potentially get a large sum of cash. But in the meantime I’m not going to have any money and I need to survive. Have a place to work at or anything. Yeah. And those fuckers on the day after I came off light duty, they laid me off. Right. So then I started looking at ways to where I can make, make good money. You know,

we’ll go, let’s go back to this. Too many people are looking for that way out. That doesn’t involve their responsibility. Look, if you’ve got your arm cut and all of that good on you, but the first thing you shouldn’t think, again, this is talking about success. The first thing you shouldn’t think of is, what’s this going to get me? Right? You should go back to doing what you’re doing because as soon as you let anything like that creep in, as soon as you let that kind of thought creep in, your whole mindset changes. I’ve, I’ve seen it many, many times and particularly there is something about getting something for nothing. You Go, well, I’m not getting anything for nothing. I got my fucking arm caught in a shredder and at eight, you know, my skin down to the bone. It did. You’re right. But I’m saying you, you have to almost choose, cause rarely do people come back from that.

The same that they did go in and let’s say you had the mindset that you’re talking about here. Uh, your arm gets cut. You do your thing, you’re suing everybody. You’re not work for six months and all the rest of that, and you’re having to hide your arm and your shirt when you come out and go work out at the gym or all the bullshit that goes on. You’re not the same fucking person, right. Because you’re not the one making the call on the shots anymore. There’s attorneys, there’s doctors, there’s all of those that take all of the power away from you and you’re essentially just doing what you’re told at that point. It’s tough to come back from that, the same person that you were going in. So good on you. Uh, if you know me just to as d two to my own experience to say, I have many, many ones like that, but I had the, the one that fucked my backup for the rest of my life where the dumpster fell on top of me.

Yeah. From the second story. Right. Terrible. And boom. But I picked it back up as fast. I could look around, make sure nobody saw me because they’re going to fire my ass house making $5 an hour, $6 an hour. And I couldn’t strap that fucker back on that forklift fast enough. Get that forklift back up before anybody knows to clean my mess up. I remember cleaning cause the forklift turned upside or the dumpster felt, you know, it tipped and fell on top of me, half of me in it and half of me out. So all the shit fell on top of me too. And all that shit had to be cleaned up. I remember flipping that dumpster over, getting that forklift down and throw in that dumpster, you know, throwing all that shit back into the dumpster and lifting it back up. I couldn’t fucking hardly walk, but let alone worry about going in to see the boss. Now here I am all these years later, what do I got to complain about? Nothing. But yeah, I’ve had all these surgeries and my back’s been fucked up from that day forward in the nerves got crushed and everything else. But there’s no excuses. I don’t have any excuses. So I would rather have lived the life that I have certainly than have gotten $100,000 payout. Yeah. That money would’ve been long fucking gone. Right. I was 18 years old, 19 years old.

So the average person with night, that’s 19 going to do with $100,000. Yeah. We’re going to go to Vegas and ordinating as well

than a car that I would’ve bought. I would’ve wrapped that car around Dell phone pole. Yeah. Yeah. I’m pretty, I’m pretty sure that’s what I would’ve done. Yeah. So, alright, so you survive that, that shit. Can you, I love this story.

Yeah. Yeah. So they laid me off the day after I came off of light duty and that day it was August 11th August 12th is my wife’s birthday, we’re going camping. So we got to go camping with us on our mind. Like, fuck, okay, I’m an unemployed. So that whole time we’re trying to figure out, okay, what are we going to do? So then my brother in law drives truck and he’s like, dude, you should drive truck. Like, okay, how can I get my CDL? So I found accompany. Schneider started with them. They had their own school where they’re put, put you through and get you get your CDL [inaudible] it was the best decision I ever made. I love driving truck. I don’t know what it is I get in there and I don’t know if it’s just like okay my balls just swell. You know, cause I’m in this big man you machine, you know, 80,000 pounds to be

fair going backwards, you were always interested in cars and obviously if you’re interested in cars you’re off. You’re interested in mechanics and if you were interested in the mechanics and how things work, you’re interested in the physics of it and you’re interested in noise in the size and the rumble in the gas and the turbos and you sold cars so you understood horsepower and how all that worked. I mean I get that. You get that. I don’t know. You’re, you’re into cars to Billy. So, I mean all of us, the three of us sitting here, I’ll get that and I’m going to guess 95% of men that are listening or are listening to this get that. So I understand that. Yeah. I love driving them big rigs. Yeah,

it was awesome. I loved it. Um, you know, I was over the road for many years. Uh, to this day I’ve driven about 2 million miles. Uh, no accidents, no tickets

on that table and got down. There you go. I don’t want us to shoot fucking tomorrow. I hear do’s not coming back to detail my car. Cause you wrapped his truck around a telephone.

Right, right. Yeah. And Yeah, and even now I haul hazardous materials, chemicals. I haul some of the most nastiest chemicals on the planet. A Cup of this stuff. If you get a cup on you, it’ll stop your heart. Well, so now’s the time not to get in an accident. Right. For sure. Anyway, but you’ve earned that right yet

the right to drive those to drive the cup of acid. Yeah. Truck. Yeah. Right. And saving all the rest of us. Yeah,

absolutely. Because that shit’s gotta move. Yeah. And they don’t hire just anybody know what classifications and everything for the love of God. Yeah. Right. Yeah, absolutely. Uh, this company I’m with now, you’ve got to, somebody has to die or retire to get in there. And luckily this guy retired, so I was able to slide it in there. Nice. Um, but yeah, I was over the road. Thank God someone died. That’s good. Yeah. Well he retired. Oh, I’m sorry. Morbid fucker. Mean. So in between that 14 years of me driving truck, I bounced around between, uh, probably 10 different trucking companies. And every single time I have gained experience, not only on a low, not only on like a, uh, uh, delivering level, but also from the shipping level. Um, I’ve trained drivers, I am a certified defensive driving instructor on a commercial level. So now I know how to tell drivers, okay, look, you know, you should really do this instead of that, so they don’t get an accident, you know, Shit like that. Um,

and you, uh, why all the, why 10, 10 different places in 14 years

in transportation, there’s a 65% turnover rate. Companies are waving money in front of their face. We need you over here. We need you over here. There’s such a show, such a big driver shortage. Correct. Drivers go on everywhere

and the, and so you’re moving from here and stay in there for a year to get that sign on bonus and, and, and more cash. And then the people across the street offer you more cash and better benefits or a bigger sign on bonus or whatever it is. And you’re just jumping.

Yeah. Okay. And you know, and I want it to be local too, because when I was over the road, it sucked, you know, on, on my family. It ultimately caused a divorce between, my wife and I were separated for only, you know, a short amount of time. We got back together and we’d been together since. Um, but it’s fucking hard, you know, when you’re away from your family because you were away from the family, the long haul park part of it. I own my own truck at one point and I was on the road for three months straight and building up cash for repairs. Right. And my transmission went out in, um, North Carolina and I had to, I know, I don’t even remember how much it cost, but it took everything. I, all my cash that I had saved up and I had used my visa.

That sucked. Yeah. I got back in town, traded the truck and bought a Volkswagen Jetta. Jesus, Japanese fucking German make up your goddamn mind. It was a Jetta Gli though. So I mean it was like the race version of the recaro bucket seats. You know, I had t four turbo on it, so it was fast German from what happened to Japanese? Well, I mean, I, I just love cars in general. Yeah. I’m not going to say I’m a Ford guy or a Chevy guy. I just, I just love cars. Um, which brings me to where I’m at now. So right now, um, I make the best money I’ve made yet. I figure this year I’ll make 87 grand. Now that’s nothing. That’s not a lot. When I’m, when I’m comparing it to somebody’s salary who you know, says, okay, you know, I’ve been doing this for, you know, all these years, you know, I’ve got, I’ve got, you know, I’m getting paid 32 bucks an hour, you know, whatever. And they’re making, you know, over a hundred cake, you know, 115 k, you know, like, I know people who do, but this is the most money I’ve made yet 87 grand. My plan is to make a hundred grand this year and I know it can do it. So you make an 87 grand. How? Driving truck

driving truck and you’re 14 years into driving truck your, I think you said 35 years old. Yes. 35 35 years old. You’re making 87 grand. Now think about this and this, this is the problem with putting an, you probably know what I’m going to say. This is a problem with putting numbers, uh, using numbers as our barometer. How far is eight? I just had this conversation with another friend of mine who has a background that would blow all of us away growing up. He’s going to come in and a and sit down and talk on the podcast. But uh, kidnapped as a child, west Hollywood grown up the heroin addict for 30 years. The worst Sr’s parents. I mean as bad as you can imagine. And uh, he is going back to school but we talked about for him, think about where he is now clean as a 40 year old going back to school finally cause he sees that as a, as a negative.

He was down on himself cause it’s taken him this long to get here. And I said no, I don’t think so. I’m looking at that as a win. Look at where you started from to get where you are. So I will say the same thing to you baby. Not to drastic kind of thing that he had to go through northern number of years. You’re 35 years old, dude. Where were you 20 ago? I was a Shithead, right? Yeah, you were half retarded. No education, don’t know shit. Nothing. But you got one thing right? Work Ethic. Yeah. You go to work, you got your wife, thank God who straighten you out. But how far is that? Let’s say the 87 is 587 the number doesn’t matter when you go from zero and nothing and no options and no opportunity to $87,000 a year in 15 years.

Right. It’s impressive. Yeah, it should and it should be viewed though as impressive guys who come from where we come from too often. Look at somebody like me, right? And say, well look what he makes, and then I might look at somebody further up the ladder and say, look what he makes. I don’t. I go, I was lucky to eat right. I took a job. I went to work everyday because I wanted to eat. At the end of the day, it fucking, I hop when I, when I was 12 years old, they let me wash dishes. I would have done it for the sandwich, for the club sandwich and the French fries that I got at the end of it. I literally would have worked for that. Fuck the rest of the money they gave me when the check showed up. That was a bonus, but I was happy to go to work because I got to eat now.

Take that to where you are today, right? Take staying at King’s row motel and now you’re making $87,000 a year as a 35 year old. That is something that you should, you want to make a hundred and you should want to make more, but let’s not be little or, or compare your numbers starting from less than zero to get to 87,000 that’s fucking impressive as hell. But thousand is impressive. Having a full time job is impressive. Having a profession is impressive. Uh, having a certain level of credibility and being able to drive the, you know, one couple killed the fucking planet or whatever the gas program was. You know, all of that’s impressive man. I’m just, I am. I love the stories and I think that we all need to take a step back. Anybody listening to this need to take step back and appreciate where you come from, particularly if you come from humble beginnings and what it takes to get to make $87,000 a year.

Because that’s a shit ton of money because you knew what you would do with 18 bucks an hour back in the day. Yeah. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. I know exactly where I was gone, you know. And the thing is, I look, I have, I have my friends in my life right now. I have my old friends in my life still. You know, my friend Carl, he is homeless. He doesn’t have a job. He’s an alcoholic. Him and I were really, really good friends. I spent the night at his house. I don’t know how many times we are super tight. He, let’s see, he was an alcoholic by 16. Yeah. And he’s just, he’s, he’s fucked. I mean, he’s homeless. He’s, he has no, he has no work ethic, no nothing. And so, I mean, I see him because I see him walking the streets of, you know,

my neighborhood. Um, but I, I just pushed myself away from all of that. I can’t have any of that shit in my life. Right. You know, I can’t have them bringing me down. Yup. And, you know, I just, I just wished that they had thought that way too. Right. You know what I mean? Right.

It is. It is so difficult when you are, particularly when you’re a kid and I don’t know how so pliable. Yeah.

Malleable. I mean in, that bothers the shit out of me because my, my oldest daughter is 16. She has a job. I’m not quite full time because she doesn’t, she doesn’t need to work full time. Um, we got her a car, we pay for her insurance. I don’t want any pressure on her whatsoever, but she’s got that work ethic and I love it.

Right. Yeah. And there’s nothing the matter with that. I’m a oh longer the answer. An email. There we go. Or texts. There’s nothing the matter with that. Uh, in fact, I’m a big believer in good for her. She has a job, but your job is to help her out. I’m a, I’m a big believer in that. When I was a kid. Um, I remember hearing all of the time how I didn’t know you needed to go to school and I didn’t need to go to college and I just needed to get my ass out and get a job and, and, and that’s what you need to do. That’s called easy parenting in my opinion. Okay? Okay. The easy parenting is to yell at the kid, to get your ass out there and get a job. There are good parents who get their kids out and have a job and then do the rest of the parenting jobs.

Right. The rest of the parts that come with parenting. But for me and the people around me and my family and I, and the kids in the neighborhood and kind of the poor where I come from, get a job, man, get the fuck out. That’s what get a job met. We don’t want to see you around here. We don’t want you here. Get the fuck out. We got shit to do. We would want to be bothered with it. So for, for me, that’s where I came from. So when I had my kids, I said, my kids, they’re going to know how to stand up on their own. I’m never going to help them. They’re going to be independent. They’re going to be fierce, they’re going to be tough. They are all those things, but they’ve never been punched in the face. I never, I didn’t understand that.

How you even can survive without being punched in the face. How can you get through life without being punched in the face? So much of who I am comes from being punched in the face, but right there with you. But I realized something. I have my CEO group tell me. I was telling this about 10 years ago and I was all, I mean I was, I was frantic because I get, which is, you know, I’m talking about it. Uh, but I was like, guys, I don’t know what I’m going to do. You know, what, what can I do to toughen my thought? I needed to toughen my kids up because of this background. And this is nine 10 successful guys. There’s, you know, in there at the time they were in their fifties and sixties and now they’re in their sixties and seventies and almost to a guy, they laughed at me and they’re like, man, we come from middle class.

My Dad had a business when I was a kid. We went to college like you’re supposed to. We graduated from high school like you’re supposed to. And we went off to college. Maybe we went into the military and we got out and we came back and we started business or we worked in my dad’s business or whatever it is. And then I went out and started my own business. However it manifests itself, I went into the business world and then I ended up owning my own business for all of these different reasons. And all of them were like, Oh man, you are the exception, not the rule. And so much of who I am is based on where I come from, but that’s the exception. So, so, so helping your daughter out, helping her pay her insurance, get her a part time job with a little bit of money in her pocket.

I think builds a foundation under if you’re teaching or all the other lessons that, that, that, that we are supposed to not let it run to her head. Don’t let her be a spoiled Brat, all the rest of those things. Right. And you’re not doing that, but that’s the work. But if you do that work and then layer it with these other things, I think that’s how you get a more well rounded, a well rounded person. And I think that the easy way out is the get the fuck out and get a job. Yeah. You know, I only think, okay, your kids are directly affects on you. My kids, we will share. You met Hailey and my oldest one super kind, you know, uses their manners. I do. I don’t want to have that kid in the store that screaming and yelling. That has never been any of my kids.

They know better than that. They won’t be that. Um, so yeah, manners, manners and all that shit or are really big to me. Um, but you have to work on that. That calls me, that’s called being a parent. And so many of us don’t want to be parents. They don’t want to put that time in. My children would know sooner. Yelena. They knew if they yelled in a store or restaurant, mom had grabbed them up and they’d disappear. Yeah. I mean, my wife didn’t fuck around for two seconds and my kids again, yes ma’am. No ma’am. The whole nine yards for just that reason, but we say it so easily, but I think that it’s, and that gets, that gets lost and all you parents, you know the funny thing is around a bunch of parents out there doing these motherfuckers don’t know what they’re talking about.

Yeah. All right. Go home, lay down, close your eyes and I dare you to fucking think about this because it’s hard to swallow when you know the reasons why, but you don’t do it because it’s work. It’s hard work. You spend time, that girl was out with you Saturday morning at my house, hanging with her. Dad’s the best fucking thing you can do. Love it. Right. Instead of running, whether girls are, she didn’t want to get up in the morning or whatever the, whatever it is, it takes work to make that happen. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Now going back here, I wanted to ask you, yeah, you had done a lot of fighting when you were younger. Yeah. Why did you fight? Um, was it because you had nothing to lose or was it because you, you were just an asshole? So it, uh, yes. Yeah, it’s a combination all above.

I, you know, I’m, I’m 15 years older than you are, so I grew up in a different time than you did. Uh, and when I grew up, you know, fighting and gangs and drugs, uh, particularly the crack epidemic, the cocaine epidemic, all of that. I grew up, I was, uh, uh, you know, eight, nine, 10 years old through 20 years old at the height of the worst, which was, you know, the late seventies and through the 80s. And so there was a feeling on the street that if somebody looked sideways at you, either you defended yourself or they were going to take from you. And so you, so I didn’t even have to be an asshole and I wasn’t getting beat up because I was an asshole. I was getting into fights because somebody looked at me and if I didn’t look back at them a certain way and you didn’t throw blows, then you were in trouble.

Because there’s a whole victim mentality that happens on the street that you have to confront. And if you don’t, if you’re known as that guy that can be picked on, then pretty soon that’s all day that you know that that word spreads and you’re getting picked on all the time. I mean, I remember when I did, when I went to high school at grant high school, you know the, these fights that they portray and movies and these fights they portray online. I mean, none of that Shit’s, that’s not how fuck it works because I’ve been walking down the hallway in between classes and two dudes. I’m behind one in front and the other dudes coming the other way and they literally look at each other in passing. And then the other guy grabs the other guy’s hair and the fucking fights on all it to Jesus Christ.

Man, I was just walking behind the dude. They weren’t talking nothing. So he just looked at him wrong. Yet you just looked at him wrong and there was such a sense of, um, there was nothing. Well, I mean, again, this is in the 70s and the 80s it’s a very different world today. It’s a very different world. Even 10 1520 years ago. Then the poor world, I grew up in that level of, you know, again, I got, when I got rolled by those guys over on 82nd threw me under a bus stop and I had to get my way home. I think about it, I’m passed out, my fucking nose is broken. How much is your nose? We both eyes are black. I took a bus. Yeah, right. And then I got off and fell asleep under a tree on a busy intersection, Gleason at 82nd and then I woke up two hours later, you know, passed out, climbed on another bus and took it down and then walked half a mile home.

Nobody fucking helped me. Nobody stopped to help. Nobody said, oh, that poor guy. Right. They was like, what’s with the homeless dude? Fucking bleeding down his front. Yeah. It was just a different mindset. So fighting was as normal as anything else. It was as normal as breathing. It was as normal as eating. Right. And if you didn’t want to get in a fight, you watched what restaurant you might walk in, you go into a different Taco bell may be or whatever, you know, whatever. You don’t walk through that park because you know, um, and it was, it was, there was a level of violence also that was much more prevalent than it is today. You know, crime is down, I think it’s 50 60% since the 80s. Incarceration rates are way up. Right. So a lot of them mother fuckers are off the streets. When I was a kid, it was a a fucking free for all.

And, and, and all you did is fine. I mean, that’s what you did. He was like, I gotta I gotta walk home. Okay, well you’re going to pass two dudes in. The chances are two groups and the chances are one of them are going to want to do something, right? Cause I have to fucking go home. I gotta go downtown to get home. You gotta go through and no matter what you do, someone’s gonna wanna gonna wanna come at you. Right? That’s why I, at the time I have, I told this story where I punched that girl.

So I’m just to our point, I’m living over in northeast Portland on Sandy. Uh, and there was a back row to this pool hall that I would go down and play pool at sandy lanes. Uh, they had a pool hall on a Bowling Alley, had place burned down years ago. And this was in the 80s, right after all of the Laotians had come in from the killing fields in Cambodia. And Vietnam. Right. So, you know, the comedian rouge was over there just fucking killing Pol Pot was killing everything that moved. Uh, so these in the 80s, in the late seventies and early eighties, these boats would arrive. Uh, they called them the boat people and these families would be on these boats just by the hundreds. You know, he’s fucking boats. Just be hunkered down. Well, a bunch of them moved over into northeast Portland. The nastiest fuckers I ever met were those, the boys largely that climbed off of that boat.

Now they’re not any bigger than you. I mean, you were big by their standards, Billy or I mean these dudes, you know, they’re Vietnamese there Cambodians, they’re 16, 17 years old. They’ve seen their family lane and fucking ditches with their heads hacked off. Okay. Then they come over here. They’re not intimidated by the giant that I am relative to them and in my world through the seventies and eighties. Having size meant something right when you were, this is before Jujitsu and all the rest of the, this is just whoever could fucking take the biggest punch and lay one back out. That’s typically who won these fights. And so having size was a huge advantage. So I’m walking down in between somewhere. I’m not supposed to be over in northeast Portland and I know I’m not supposed to be there, but fuck them. That was my take. So a bit of an asshole that way.

And again, there they are on the stoop and the sister of the group comes out and she’s probably 16 years old. She’s about this tall and I’m, you know, four and a half feet tall, five feet tall. And she just starts on me poking me. Like I knew it was going to happen only it comes from a chick and she’s like, you gonna hit me, you’re gonna hit me. And I was like, you better stop touching me. And then she slaps me and I was like, you’re going to hit me. She put her chin up. I was like, alright, I can more thing again. But I was at a 16 year old animal and then off comes the boys and I mean they just got you buy six or seven at a time and they were, they were, those dudes had it tough. I had a lot of respect for them.

Dude’s uh, because they had it ugly. Uh, and that’s where they came from. And then a bunch of them, they live like six or eight or 10 people in these little 500, 700 square foot apartments. They were some tough fuckers. It’d be interesting to see where they are now. Uh, but that was again, I knew if I walked down there, oh, I didn’t know I was going to have to punch a girl, but I knew walking down there that, that I was going to get into trouble because that’s just what you did when we’d go to the pool hall. I don’t know. I went to the pool hall one at a two times. You got in a fight for no reason other than you were at the pool hall. Yeah. So that’s what you do. Right. So, I dunno. I don’t think it was anything that’s the long winded answer.

I understand, but I don’t think it was anything specific. I think it was just that was the life and then that changed over time. That toughened you up. Yeah, I mean certainly it does. Yeah. I mean you learn this is the, this is the problem. This is the thing. It toughened me up. It made me who I am, but it’s not what you have to, to have some level of success to me is part of who I am. But I’ve learned that that’s the exception and not the rule and there are tons of rich people and tons of successful people, tons of people who have been married for 25 years and have great kids and have gone on to be successes and their kids have gone and big successes. There’s tons of people who have changed their family change that generational poverty dynamic without necessarily having to have lived through this. There’s tons of people who have come from middle class and, and let’s say even rich backgrounds that have gone on then themselves to be middle class and rich, um, without ever getting punched in the face. So I’m not, I’m not an advocate that you have to go through that. I think you can learn that. Um, and I had to learn that myself because it’s so anathema to what I am. It’s so the opposite of who I am.

I can just say that. I, I, I sort of relate to that. Um, in junior high and high school I was short little fat redhead kid and I’m Spanish Mexican native. So I mean, I got Tan Skin, red hair, and I was short and fat. I got picked on. I got into a lot of fights. Yeah. My wife and kids, they’ve never seen me fight. Sure. I had, I’d, why I have everything I need, right. I, I don’t need to, I don’t need to show, you know, this guy that, hey, you know, I’m not going to take her shit. Well, just back off, leave us be trail. But it definitely changed. Um, my, my mentality, you know, I don’t take any shit. Right. Um, but I try to tell it how it is now. I’ve gotten pretty soft over the years. My wife gives me shit all the time. She calls me

if anything, what it taught me though along those lines is that it grew a, uh, it helped grow my ego that I was able to survive that in such a way that now I don’t give a fuck. Yeah. And by the time I was in my late thirties, early forties, is when I really started not to give a fuck. And I ha, but I was able to learn to not give a fuck because it gave me an ego. Having survived it as such that I was able to then just say, you know, if you cut me off in traffic, it’s not the end of my life. Yeah. It’s not going to kill me. In fact, that was a good move. Um, and my feelings don’t necessarily get hurt, but we would fight. Uh, I mean, my best friend, we were in multiple fist fights and then when we drove to the basketball court together, right, right.

Yes. So we had to get in the car and then chances are one of us was supposed to by Taco Bell. Right. Uh, and it’s not like you can’t do that and then you go home and watch the basketball game and you’re fucking nurse in the NOC. You’ve got on your chair, your asshole. No, you are. No, you are right. Because he fucking punched me or I punched him. So, uh, you know, that was just, uh, it’s hard to understand if you don’t come from it, but if you come from it, it’s almost a way of communicating, you know, in a, in a, in a, in an old way. And the Neanderthal, I mean, it’s a way of communicating. So, uh, yeah, that’s, that’s interesting. I don’t, I don’t, I don’t, I’m convinced you don’t have to do it though. So you’re, let’s talk about this. You’re 87 grand. 100 grand is your number. How are you going to get there? What’s the plan for moving on and up? Cause I know you’re not just doing trucks are, I know you’re not just driving truck.

Right. So I also detail on the side, I’m, you know, I’m a subset obsessed with cars. I like keeping them clean. Uh, my, let’s define obsessed. Tell us about when you in La, where did you go visit? Huh. Okay. So I was in La fucking psycho. I was in la for work and then uh, I had been watching this youtube channel for years and years and they’re actually the ones who taught me how to detail and they have a, they have a business, a storefront and I’m like, I have to visit this place. I have to, it’s on, it’s like on my bucket list of things to do and just to go see this, this garage. And I went over there and bought a couple small things and I was talking with the manager and he’s like, dude, do you want a tour? I’m like, yeah, he killed me.

So I got to check out their detail bay. I got to see all the cameras that they use. I got to see all of their lists that they have. I got to see the warehouse, I got to see their production end. Um, I was walking around like, Oh yeah, yeah, we shot that video is there with that car. And you did that over there. And I was just, I just loved it there now. Hardcore. Yeah. So, so I like to detail. So that’s actually how, um, Jerry and I had met is through our mutual friend Jamie. Um, Jerry need needed his old man’s or your father in law and your old father in law’s truck. Yeah. So it was dirty

diet and we had to sell his truck. So we had Daniel come out and

clean it up and shine it up. Yep. Me and my daughter came out there and got her all nice and clean and then we started talking cars. And now I know you’re really modest and you don’t like to talk about all the stuff that you have. So forgive me here, but how about you? Do you got some red cars? Yeah, there was a, there’s a nice one out there too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I’ll say 10. Yeah. I didn’t take any pictures, so I mean we’re good. Um, but yeah, I was, I was just, I love the fact that you were showing me your cars and you’re telling me all the different stories about, you know, each one and what it meant to you. And I think that that was Super Rad. I’m, I’m not trying to be a detailer, I’m just a guy who knows how to detail.

I don’t have any ads out. I don’t say, oh, okay. You know, come see me. I only do stuff for friends or friends of friends. That’s all I do and that’s, I don’t plan on going any further because right now it’s fun. What I like to detail what I’d like to have a detailing business. Sure. I would like to manage it. I’d like to own it, but I don’t want to be doing it because right now it’s fun. Ideally I’d like to have a detailing supply business. Okay. There’s only four within, I think it was 15 miles over I live. And each one of those are all commercial level. There’s no residential level. The only thing you can do is you can go to autozone and by their, their shitty stuff and even then they don’t have everything that you need. So ideally down the road, that’s where I’d like to be is to have that business. You know, you couldn’t see me when you’re ready and give up the trucking. Yeah. We’ll do it both the same time. No, I, you know, like when Jordan ended, he ended on a high level. I’m on my high level right now. I’ll do this for as long as I need. Um, but ultimately my heart is in owning my own detailing supply business. Yeah. Good for you.

It’s there. It is. But I mean, I don’t know. We’ll see.

Yeah. Hey, you just got here and stay here for a minute, right. Kinda hang at this level. So now you are, you’ve got multiple kids. You didn’t say, you said 16 year old girl, I met your daughter. Yep.

And then a 10 year old Taylor. Yeah. Boy, girl, girl,

Girl. So two daughters. Yeah, man, that’s tough. Three girls in the house and you, yeah. Yeah. That makes for interesting times, but good for you, the wife and you are still together 20 years going strong. Cause again that bucks the trend to, yeah. You know, the earlier you get married, the earlier you get divorced is kind of how it goes. I’d never been married if, if today, if I got married when I was 28 and if I got married when I was before 28, I would, I wouldn’t be married anymore. I W I mean I’ve been had, I had kids when I was your age. Uh, I’d have been the worst fucking father. I, I, you know, it just, it happens for a reason. Clearly it’s worked for you and I applaud you for that because that is definitely bucking the trends, uh, that are against you. And they’re the trends that I’ve seen. We were talking the other day, I don’t remember what if it was in the podcast or when, you know, I have friends that can take a picture with five generations

because

they were born when mom was 16, and then they’re 16. Uh, when they got pregnant, which was I was 16 and then they have a daughter that’s 16. Uh, and then the daughter got got pregnant at 16, and then of course grandma is still grandma being the people that I know that I grew up with their grandmothers in her seventies or eighties. So there are mothers in their fifties or sixties a while they’re probably in their sixties. Now. Mom, my grandma’s in their seventies and uh, they’ve got a 30 year old daughter and the 30 year old daughter has a 16 year old daughter who’s pregnant. Yeah, that’s crazy. Multiple people I know like that. And that is where that typically goes at least. Well, I, we know statistically speaking, that’s where that goes. So too, again, congratulations to you too, bucking that trend because you understand you should be divorced kids on the weekends, not there every everyday for your daughters and it can’t be spoken loudly enough how important fathers are to their daughters.

Uh, m mean it is to their sons also. Um, but you know, so many of the people that I know as teenagers had shitty fathers and then went off and what a girls do when they’re 17 years old, when dad doesn’t pay any attention to them and they’ve got issues, they go find fucking father figures who will pay attention to them. So pregnant, married, divorced, multiple kids, multiple men, multiple kids, which again, uh, it’s bad decision making. I was going to say I’m not judging, but it is bad decision making. There’s no two ways around it and you have to live with the ramifications of those bad decisions. But that’s where I should be. That’s where you should be. That’s where we should have gone. And to beat those fans by making a good decision. I have clear though in my head, I know exactly why I made the decisions that I did.

I had epiphany’s along the way that kind of told me turn left instead of right turn right instead of left at this point. Um, to, to me it sounds for you like it was a little bit more organic than that. Um, you had some things happen that told you you wanted to do this, but the best thing that happened to you was that you got pregnant. Right? Cause that’s really what shook you. And you had the wife Kinda hit you over the top of the head and then you bring the daughter in at the same time. And that’s the one that’s straightened you out. Yep. That’s good for you, man. Yeah, that’s impressive. And anybody listening that’s impressive. That’s if you can do it. How hard is it for people who don’t have to deal with all of that? And I think your story is probably more representative of most people that are out there. And you’re talking about what’s possible. Tell me again why you can’t make 80 fucking thousand dollars a year and you have no education. You know, because the one thing I heard when we started this last year, uh, before Billy, what we got all the time was I’m 25 years old. Nobody will hire me. Horse Shit, this fucking that. Yeah. 25. Let’s see. I, I don’t remember exactly

how much I was making, but I mean it was, it was definitely more than all of my friends, right? I mean, I was over the road. It sucked, but it got me to where I’m at now. You’re out there humping it. But it’s that mentality when these guys give them a ship in the same phrase, tell her you’re humping. Talking about that means something to you young. Know before we head out, got something behind the curtain for you. He snuck it back there. How do I see it? Yeah, behind that red curtain. So dollar tree. What’d you get for me here? My knee didn’t have to bring me something. Jesus. And the winner is,

you’ve been listening. That’s how I know this dude’s been listening right here for the camera. Uh, for anybody listening, he me some dollars toward that. Now this isn’t fucking funny. Some dollar store tooty fruity cereal and malt o meal. Tutti Frutti is that is too funny. And then a big old sign that says Spotify. Dude, you asked her to change it or you thought we were joking. There it is right there. It’s a mirror plugs that is a, a guy that we know who’s been listening to the stories for sure. That is awesome. My wife bought a, brought home some fruity pebbles the other day, man. Dot. It’s hard. Fruity pebbles are so good. Oh yeah. They’re so good. Those chemicals are so good. Mine’s the Reese’s puffs. Those are the ones that’ll get me every time. No, see, didn’t have those when I was a kid. So it’s gotta be, it’s gotta be captured, crunch

or uh, I honeycomb and then think about honeycomb. Honeycomb was smart because they were big.

Right. And that was their whole advertising campaign when I was a kid was, uh, they had, uh, had a song, it was like, uh, going to make me fucking singing. It was like honey combs big. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s not small. No, no. And then they had like the beautiful, and you really had like the honeycomb hideout, uh, and it was all cool. Right. And they’d eat their honeycomb in the hideout at, which was, uh, which was a, a tree house. I bet you could find one of the [inaudible] look it up real quick. Let’s see. You can find that real quick. Uh, and but it came in a big exercise box even though it wasn’t probably by volume anymore and they were just puffed up. But you thought you were rich because you had uh, he had honeycombs and Fox was so much bigger. So when you’re a kid, remember how little the, the um,

the box of the, not the one my wife brought home a fruity pebbles was gigantic box, you know was I got an industrial size box but the normal devices, little tiny thing. That’s why you had to guard that shit when I a kid cause at Christmas,

cause my fucking brother’s did eat that shit. Cause you know the fruity pebble box isn’t that big or you find it? I think so. Yeah. The honeycomb cars, there’s 1970s. That’s it.

Check it. Really? That’s the one I’ve never seen. This dude was I lion God is beautiful. Not seen that or heard that in 40 fucking years.

Yeah. Don’t tell me. Don’t tell me advertising doesn’t work, man. I remember that. Did I nailed the song 40 years later. That is awesome. I love the Internet to check it. You found it just that easy. Alright, Daniel. That was fun, man. That was easy, Huh? Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. I mean, I think what do we were an hour and 15 minutes in? Yeah. 10 hour, 10 minutes goes by like this. Yeah. I love your story. I love it. Anybody listening should to, that wraps up this fuck. I really got it. See, the problem is, is that I read it. It’s not 76 how long have I had this piece of paper and I worked off my phone for that was, I don’t know, probably 20 episodes. Yeah. All right, so let’s get 50 times. Let’s get the number right. That’s all I’m asking you. The problem is is that I’ve always read it.

Yeah. Right, so trying to track, yeah. I don’t know. It’s fucking with my brain or I could just be too stupid to memorize it. That wraps up this episode. Thanks everybody for tuning in. Be sure to check us out on Youtube, Instagram, Facebook, iTunes, Google and reddit. Jerry brazy on all of them. Uh, or Oh yeah. As soon as questions. Two questions at Gerry [inaudible] dot com and you too could be sitting right where Daniel isn’t telling us your story. That was fun, Daniel. I appreciate it. Remember people, opportunities are everywhere. As Daniel just just told us, if you were listening for the last hour, he is the epitome of that, but you’ve got to go get them. They’re not going to come to you piece later.

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